New spin on an old idea...

[JW]

"Dark," "Unholy," "Blight," "Shadow," "Impure" magic.

I think there is a gameplay issue involved that needs to be resolved: water units and dwarves have resistancies to "Cold" magic - the substitute for an unholy type of attack. Does this make sense?

I say, as have several in the past, no.

I propose that the current Undead Cold attacks be made into another type, such as Blight, whatever the designers prefer, and that the resistancies of all units to this type of attack be made 0%. This would be easier than making a new resistancy type for all units and I'm guessing it would be easier to program the 0% resistancy into the actual attack itself rather than each unit.

If this doesn't make sense, please let me know why.

[Lord_Aether]

Undead shouldn't be vunerable to this type of attack, though.

[scott]

I think the idea is BWH, but others hold some philosophical impediments to it.

[turin]

Either BWH or FPI, depending on who you ask.


I say BWH.

[unsung]

I wish it was that way.

[Cuyo Quiz]

Or we could take Holy in the sense of extraterrenal (maybe with an appropiate name change) and make their attacks Holy!(leaving the waterfolk with their Cold resistance).

I say this because when i once read a proposition for an "anti-holy" damage type, my best idea was that magic itself was the opposition of holy (one fueling unnatural effects like undeads, the latter trying to restablish the status), and that resistances could be worked with this in mind without adding new resistances.

[Eleazar]

IMHO it's more KISS to have an additional damage type if that makes it more intuitively obvious who deals out which kind of damage, and who has various kinds of resistances.

[Sapient]

water units and dwarves have resistancies to "Cold" magic - the substitute for an unholy type of attack. Does this make sense?

I think you meant to say, 'certain water units,' a.k.a. mermen. I've killed many nagas with dark adepts. You also bring up dwarves.

1) Mermen. Sure I don't mind if merman get unholy resistance (by grace of their cold resistance statistic). It's a fictional race, so why not? To counter-balance, though, I'd like to see them get lightning weakness (through fire weakness statistic). Fair enough? See the poll I started in multiplayer development for more on that topic.

2. Dwarves. From what I know about dwarves from D&D, they get +2 saves versus spells. So I don't think we're really making a greivious error by allowing them some unholy resistance. My preference, though, would be to strip dwarves of their "snowy" status, and give that to Orcs instead. As a bonus, orcs would be less susceptible to unholy, which makes more sense to me. After all, dwarves already have a favored terrain type (mountains and hills). Why not give snow to Orcs?

Just my two gold pieces...

[JW]

I like your second point more than the first. The reason being I saw Scott say Mermen were losing some Cold resistance. Northerners are strong enough as is, and I don't think they have a natural affinity towards snow - even if they've been forced to claim Northern lands through lack of being able to conquer more habitable terrain.