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Cobra- level 0 unit, high defence but its hp isn't even worth mentioning;
suprisingly high ranged damage, obviously with poison; getting rid of a cobra is easy, however getting it's venom on you can be lethal, making it a very dangerous level 0 unit at that.
Minotaur Bouncer- I plan to make a lot more of minotaurs for different uses, these minotaur would probably be level "2" and fit the category of mini-boss, stat wise they're better than normal level 2 units and I'd expect them to be units that randomly appear in a group of 2 or 3 in the final room towards the treasure/boss/objective
a pierce charge attack and a fist blunt attack would probably be enough for it.
Cobra- level 0 unit, high defence but its hp isn't even worth mentioning;
suprisingly high ranged damage, obviously with poison; getting rid of a cobra is easy, however getting it's venom on you can be lethal, making it a very dangerous level 0 unit at that.
Minotaur Bouncer- I plan to make a lot more of minotaurs for different uses, these minotaur would probably be level "2" and fit the category of mini-boss, stat wise they're better than normal level 2 units and I'd expect them to be units that randomly appear in a group of 2 or 3 in the final room towards the treasure/boss/objective
a pierce charge attack and a fist blunt attack would probably be enough for it.
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Spitting Cobra
level 0
lawful (seeing as the thing needs to use its eyesight; and we've got rather a shortage of lawful creeps otherwise)
5 moves
15 HP
movetype - normal to good defense, 1 move in forest, not sure otherwise
7-1 fangs
poison
melee--blade
5-2 spit
poison
ranged--fire
Minotaur Bouncer
level 2
chaotic
6 moves
62 HP
movetype - movement and defense just like an Orc. Minotaurs are athletic, so they don't have low defense like a Troll. They have trolls' blade and pierce resistance however.
9-4 fists
melee--impact
10-3 horns
charge
melee--blade
level 0
lawful (seeing as the thing needs to use its eyesight; and we've got rather a shortage of lawful creeps otherwise)
5 moves
15 HP
movetype - normal to good defense, 1 move in forest, not sure otherwise
7-1 fangs
poison
melee--blade
5-2 spit
poison
ranged--fire
Minotaur Bouncer
level 2
chaotic
6 moves
62 HP
movetype - movement and defense just like an Orc. Minotaurs are athletic, so they don't have low defense like a Troll. They have trolls' blade and pierce resistance however.
9-4 fists
melee--impact
10-3 horns
charge
melee--blade
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Two more added to the list:
Giant Stag Beetle- imagine a Hi, add charge and flight; and tripple it's weakness to fire; what do you get? Exactly, overpowered.
shredskin cobra- a lot like a bigger stronger level 2 cobra; except a lot more melee-focused, as with any snake, relatively high damage for it's level.
(I think the cobra should do 1 point more damage btw, it's current stats look pretty level 0)
Giant Stag Beetle- imagine a Hi, add charge and flight; and tripple it's weakness to fire; what do you get? Exactly, overpowered.
shredskin cobra- a lot like a bigger stronger level 2 cobra; except a lot more melee-focused, as with any snake, relatively high damage for it's level.
(I think the cobra should do 1 point more damage btw, it's current stats look pretty level 0)
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Well what do you expect; it's level 0.Neoriceisgood wrote:(I think the cobra should do 1 point more damage btw, it's current stats look pretty level 0)
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Yeah, but I'd expect snakes to be fragile with more damage than is common for their level; as they're some of the most lethal animals alive.Elvish Pillager wrote:Well what do you expect; it's level 0.Neoriceisgood wrote:(I think the cobra should do 1 point more damage btw, it's current stats look pretty level 0)
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Make them higher level then?
Trouble is, poison in Wesnoth is inherently for attrition; it can't kill units. Maybe the snakes should have deadly poison...
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Trouble is, poison in Wesnoth is inherently for attrition; it can't kill units. Maybe the snakes should have deadly poison...
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Two more for the batch:
trollkin midget: really just a pathetic excuse for a level 0 group unit; though being group-oriented some weird abillity that works like backstab would work nice for them
amazing flying wyrm: What is a wyrm? A limbless dragon, probably level 1; this guy just flies around being nasty, biting for melee; fireballs or acid for ranged, I'm not sure if wyrms are supposed to breath fire, I forgot.
trollkin midget: really just a pathetic excuse for a level 0 group unit; though being group-oriented some weird abillity that works like backstab would work nice for them
amazing flying wyrm: What is a wyrm? A limbless dragon, probably level 1; this guy just flies around being nasty, biting for melee; fireballs or acid for ranged, I'm not sure if wyrms are supposed to breath fire, I forgot.
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evasion, backstab, and regenerate! very low hp.Neoriceisgood wrote: trollkin midget: really just a pathetic excuse for a level 0 group unit; though being group-oriented some weird abillity that works like backstab would work nice for them
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The wyrm looks like a Chinese-style dragon... they're famous for weather control, so it could have a cold-based breath attack, some form of lightning, or maybe some kind of holy attack -- those are in pretty short supply, and would fit just fine here.
Edit: Also, I believe somebody mentioned traps; this seems like a hallmark of a dungeon... not sure if it'd be codeable, but here's how I assume it'd work; the trap is invisible, of course, and when you get "ambushed," i.e. run into it, either
a) you're forced to attack it, and it has firststrike abilities with both melee and ranged, or
b) you just have to stay where you are and cannot attack the trap, and it hits you with an attack that has a range of "trap" and thus cannot be retaliated against.
In either case, once sprung, it automatically self-destructs.
Alternatively, you could combine the two; initiate an attack as soon as the ambush occurs and have the attack type somehow set to "trap" so the player gets hit without retaliating... but that seems rather unlikely to be codeable.
Edit: Also, I believe somebody mentioned traps; this seems like a hallmark of a dungeon... not sure if it'd be codeable, but here's how I assume it'd work; the trap is invisible, of course, and when you get "ambushed," i.e. run into it, either
a) you're forced to attack it, and it has firststrike abilities with both melee and ranged, or
b) you just have to stay where you are and cannot attack the trap, and it hits you with an attack that has a range of "trap" and thus cannot be retaliated against.
In either case, once sprung, it automatically self-destructs.
Alternatively, you could combine the two; initiate an attack as soon as the ambush occurs and have the attack type somehow set to "trap" so the player gets hit without retaliating... but that seems rather unlikely to be codeable.
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