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I have started here a thread about a possible early 19th century Wesnoth.

I have decided to start a discussion on the art for it here.

What I have done:
-Infantry (all factions)
-Cavalry (all factions)
-Rainnen Hunter line
-Imperium Captain line
-Poenia Officer line
-Poenia Conscript
-Borealis Mojik line

I would appreciate it if some people would download the images alreadt done (in .bmp for now) and give comments and criticisms.

What I still need to do:
-Artillery (all factions)
-Tunnarian Cavalry line for Rainnen
-Highlands Infantry line for Imperium
-Cossack cavalry line for Borealis

I would definitely appreciate some help with them.

I have a solid idea what the Highlands Infantry should look like (just need to kiss up Flametrooper for some kilts and headdresses).

I would appreciate any suggestions on what the rest should look like, or maybe even submissions.

IMPORTANT:

These guys are in uniform. Thus, instead of using 'standard' Wesnoth differentiation ways (size+weaponry), I have used uniform, pomp and symbols to show what the units are.

They will look highly similar at first, but if you'll look at more of them, you'll notice a trend and start to understand the 'system' of uniform colours and adornments I used.

Well, have at it...
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Post by Flametrooper »

You may or may not find these useful for the Highland Infantry, if your replace their cabers with swords or muskets or whatever; just mention me in the credits and it'll be good.
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Flametrooper wrote:You may or may not find these useful for the Highland Infantry
The Highlanders won't break uniform completely, but I probably will steal them kilts from ya! Most of my units are frankensteined anyway...

You wouldn't happen to have any of those tall, cylindrical black hats that highlander regiments used somewhere in your celts, would you?
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Post by Tux2B »

I only have two comments about this.

The first one is that units look too much like each other, most of all those of different countries, while it wasn't the case in this period :

Russian soldier :
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French soldier :
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English soldier :
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Also, the hat you gave to French soldiers (Poenia) were only those that were being worn officers. You should give it only to higher level units.

You can find more images on :
http://www.1789-1815.com/
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Tux2B wrote:The first one is that units look too much like each other, most of all those of different countries, while it wasn't the case in this period
Actually, those images tell a different story.

The russian is cavalry, so...

But look at the french and english soldier image, side by side.

They had the same tall mitre hat, the same tight tunic with the straps on it, the same rider's pants and the same boots.

The only major difference is in the color scheme and minute oraments.

Scaled down to Wesnoth unit images, they would look like the same unit, only T-colored differently.

I kept the color scheme for showing differences in type, so I used the hat to show differences in nationality. It's a detail, but an easily noticeable and recognizable one.

Like I said in my first post, I decided to use symbols to show the differences between units. The player would, I think, quickly understand the code.

How do you like these as Highland infantry?
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These are better. Easier to recognize I'd say.
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Images for the Cossack and Tunnarian cavalry are done.

Posted below for comments and suggestions.

All I still need to do is the artillery, and the art will be ready to roll.
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There needs to be more difference between levels. Simple as that.
At the moment the only things changed from level 1-3 are a bit of colour and a plume thingy on the hat.
This just isn't something you can skimp on if you want the art to be of decent quality.

Apart from that, the art itself isn't too bad.
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Zhukov wrote:There needs to be more difference between levels. Simple as that.
At the moment the only things changed from level 1-3 are a bit of colour and a plume thingy on the hat.
This just isn't something you can skimp on if you want the art to be of decent quality.

Apart from that, the art itself isn't too bad.
If you read his post...
Casual User wrote:These guys are in uniform. Thus, instead of using 'standard' Wesnoth differentiation ways (size+weaponry), I have used uniform, pomp and symbols to show what the units are.

They will look highly similar at first, but if you'll look at more of them, you'll notice a trend and start to understand the 'system' of uniform colours and adornments I used.
I don't think that's a great way of doing it; but it is intentional.
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I know it is intentional. My point is that it doesn't really work.
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Suggestions:
-More feathers. Like 0 at l1, 1 at l2, 2 at l3.
-Stripes. More for higher levels, and only on the higher levels.
-Even a simple pose change isn't so unfeasible. Have level 3's hold their weapon up high, level 1's hold it down low, etc.
-"Plume" type things on their helmets like the Loyalist Sargeant, Lieutenant, and General.
-Flags.
-That's all I can think of for now.
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Post by Tux2B »

Cosacks should use a spear, like they did in reality :

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That would help making a difference between units.
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Post by Oreb »

Tux2B wrote:Cosacks should use a spear, like they did in reality :

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That would help making a difference between units.
Russian Cossacks used swords, and at later dates, bayonets, but that is a bit too far ahead.

This era would seem great, and Casual I never knew you be that such an artist.
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All I'm saying is that you might want to tone the saturation down a bit. 8)
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Oreb wrote:Russian Cossacks used swords, and at later dates, bayonets, but that is a bit too far ahead.
Swords, sure - the bloke in that picture does have a saber. But bayonets? I'm not so sure.
I believe they also used revolvers - easier to be fired from horseback, even while on the move (much much later they used SMGs for the same reason).

But we are drifting.
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