The appearance of the NO FOG clan.

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The appearance of the NO FOG clan.

Post by Elvish_Pillager »

Since I've been making it a point that I don't like Fog of War on the MP server, (:D) I've ended up in some discussion about it and along with a couple of other players, we had the idea of making NO FOG into a clan. It now is one. Anyone can join provided they dislike fog, abide by the rules below, and are willing to be in the same clan with the members below. ;)


Current members, in order of join date:
  • Elvish Pillager (Elvish NO FOG Pillager) (initiator and ostensible leader)
  • King Arthur (King Arthur?)
  • ryn (ryn?)
  • turin (No-Fog Turin?)
  • Dragon of Flame (Dragon of Flame?)
  • martenzo (martenzo?)
  • Foxwolf (Foxwolf?)
  • toms (toms?)
  • Liminality2 (FOGLESS Liminality2)
Rules:
  • You are not allowed to play in a game with Fog of War on.
Reasons to dislike fog:
  • It all but eliminates the Undo feature; Undo is a very important feature and should not be trifled with.
  • It facilitates winning by unwesnothish means; to surprise an opponent is not to defeat him tactically.
  • It is annoying to be surprised from the fog; fun should not be had at the other's expense.
  • It makes it awfully boring to wait for opponents' moves on some maps.
I think that basically covers it.
Last edited by Elvish_Pillager on January 18th, 2006, 9:54 pm, edited 8 times in total.
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Post by Breeblebox »

Reasons to like fog:
  • The undo feature is for sissies.
    Suprise is a tactic.
    Fun is always had at your opponent's expense.
In chess for instance, even touching a piece means you are obliged to move it. Putting the piece down and removing your hand obliges you to leave it there.

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Post by turin »

I hereby pledge my allegiance to the NO FOG clan.


Beeblebrox, if you like fog, start your own FOG clan, but don't clutter this thread. ;)
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Post by Tux2B »

Breeblebox wrote:Reasons to like fog:
  • The undo feature is for sissies.
    Suprise is a tactic.
    Fun is always had at your opponent's expense.
In chess for instance, even touching a piece means you are obliged to move it. Putting the piece down and removing your hand obliges you to leave it there.

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I agree, except concerning the undo feature. Wesnoth is not chess.
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Post by unsung »

I hat efog but i'm not willing to only play in no fog games becuase there isn't enough of them.
Oh no look out its a ray gun.
You should move to avoid the rays
the rays are coming out of the gun
if you are hit by the rays
you will be shot by the rays
the rays are fast so you should be fast to
can you win against the fast rays from the gun?
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Post by Dragon of Flame »

Finnaly I found someone else like me. How do I get in to all this?
I still don't understand economy. All our money is based on a shiny rock that's hard to find.
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Post by Doc Paterson »

Allow me to suspend standard courtesies and speak off the record:

(No offense to anyone. Especially Turin, who shouldn't be a part of this. :) )

This Clan is TRASH! :P

I will see it burned to the ground!!!

:D

(Even now, an army of fierce Fogites approaches from the north to wipe you out. You may postpone your doom by sacrificing Arthur to the Fog Gods.)
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Post by Dragon of Flame »

OK....... :?
That was weird.
So anyway, do I just pledge my allegence or what :?:
I still don't understand economy. All our money is based on a shiny rock that's hard to find.
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Post by turin »

Doc Paterson wrote:No offense to anyone. Especially Turin, who shouldn't be a part of this. :)
Well, I dislike FOG for the reason that EP said.

But, I don't know if I'll join the clan or not; having "Turin NO FOG" would look dumb, IMHO. :)

So I'm a NO FOG clan sympathizer, but I won't actually join it.
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Dragon of Flame wrote:OK....... :?
That was weird.
So anyway, do I just pledge my allegence or what :?:
Basically yeah. And you add "NO FOG" to your login name.

Túrin: It's a pity you don't like it. If you can come up with a different way to stick it in your name, that's good. (It's a pity that the names are letters only...)
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unsung wrote:I hat efog but i'm not willing to only play in no fog games becuase there isn't enough of them.
What nonsense! All you have to do is say "Create it without fog", and voila! there is a game without fog.
Braedlepox wrote:
  • The undo feature is for sissies.
    Suprise is a tactic.
    Fun is always had at your opponent's expense.
Duck Pitterson wrote:(No offense to anyone.
...
This Clan is TRASH!
You two are foul advocates of thread pollution, and should be sliced and diced.
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Post by Dragon of Flame »

Ok thanks.

Is there a ceremony or a certificate of honor? :D

EDIT: my login name is Dragon of NO FOG Flame
I still don't understand economy. All our money is based on a shiny rock that's hard to find.
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Re: The appearance of the NO FOG clan.

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Elvish Pillager wrote:Rules:
  • You are not allowed to play in a game with Fog of War on.
See, this will make the Clan more of a joke than it already is, because outside of yourself and Turin (not a member :D ), you really have no strong players. And seeing as your members are not allowed to play in fog games, they'll never be able to play top players, and will never really improve. Most serious players aren't going to just drop fog at the request of an Anti-Fogite. Surely, you see the problem?

(It's bad genetics! :P )
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Post by King Arthur »

You're making me angry Doc, I have a proposal, we play a 1x1 you and me, you use undead and I use loyalists, on any map I chose, if you lose you'll have to join the clan fog, if I lose I'll leave it.
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Post by Dragon of Flame »

[quote="King Arthur"]You're making me angry Doc, I have a proposal, we play a 1x1 you and me, you use undead and I use loyalists, on any map I chose, if you lose you'll have to join the clan fog, if I lose I'll leave it.[/quote]

Be careful Arthur.
I still don't understand economy. All our money is based on a shiny rock that's hard to find.
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