Tabletop Default Era

[Ken_Oh]

what about the moving in hordes? is this possible?

No.

[ibaxx]

why not? isn´t there a possibility to ask for the type and the team of the unit on the near hex field????

[tsr]

why not? isn´t there a possibility to ask for the type and the team of the unit on the near hex field????

I missed the whole "move in hordes" thing when implementing this first version.

Could you please elaborate on what you mean by it?

• I need to know things like:
• how many units should be able to make a horde?
• do all units in a horde need to be of the same type?
• • how do you chose movement?
  • based on the slowest unit (least mp)?
  • based on the slowest unit on given terrain? (i mean: say that you pack a cavalry, a naga and a goblin spearman - how do they move over mountain, water, grassland and why?)
• the relation ship between the unit that goes into the horde and the horde (be it one or more units) - you said something about standing next to it...
• should units be able to move out of the horde?
• • how does the fighting work?
  • are all units in the horde combined into one?
  • is one unit chosen for each fight? How is it chosen?
• How does a horde receive healing? poison? slow?
• Whatever you or anyone else have to add

If you manage to answer all those questions I can evaluate the possibility to code this.

/tsr

ps. I will give you my delivery address so that you can send me that netbook you offered me in return for coding this...

...it is a joke, but also a warning, don't expect other people to code your stuff, ibaxx was just lucky here cause I found the topic fun, fairly easy to do (up until the horde thing that is) and had some free time on my hands

[ibaxx]

how many units should be able to make a horde?

as much as you want
quote]do all units in a horde need to be of the same type?[[/quote]
yes the units should be the same type

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how do you chose movement?

you have to move the units one by one
the benefits of a horde are that they got the unit items like quick, inteligent and so on only when they are in a horde.
i think all units in a horde should get the same item.

based on the slowest unit (least mp)?
based on the slowest unit on given terrain? (i mean: say that you pack a cavalry, a naga and a goblin spearman - how do they move over mountain, water, grassland and why?)

the fact is that you move the units one by one it would be a problem of yout tectic that you have to look to get them into a horde to get its benefits.

the relation ship between the unit that goes into the horde and the horde (be it one or more units) - you said something about standing next to it...

i think there should be a lower limit like 3 units.
a horde menas that 3 or more units have base contact (they are standing next to)

should units be able to move out of the horde?

yes, when you have no base contact to the other units, the unit lost their unit benefits like quick an so on.

how does the fighting work?

no special fighting...

are all units in the horde combined into one?

no...

is one unit chosen for each fight? How is it chosen?

no, the fighting is the same like other... you can only atack units where you have base contact

How does a horde receive healing? poison? slow?

no horde system for that

thank you again... the first alpha is great... i have not enough time yesterday to test it really but i have tried one match...
is it possible to edit the ai?
no wonder but the ai seems not to understand the new gameplay

maybe i can help by programming...
maybe you can give me the code and i am looking whats possible?

is that c++ or just a scripting language?
i thing you have to compile it with eclipse?

[ibaxx]

I foud a big bug!!!

when random map size is 20x20 fileds
there is no fog on the other side of the wall and you can move your units trough the wall to the other side!!!

with 40x40 no problem!

what do you mean with the player one advantage?
i see no advantage to be the first

[tsr]

@ibaxx: I've read your comments...

Ok, now I understand what you mean by horde, thanks - will think about how that could be implemented

I know why that bug happens, in reality it is an engine bug, but I can fix it in the meantime.

/tsr

[ibaxx]

where can i see your code?
i want to know how you developed it

[Ken_Oh]

Sorry, when you said moving in hordes I thought you meant the actual movement of a group. What you're talking about is some sort of ability that depends on having units adjacent to each other.

[ibaxx]

that makes it more tactically i think...
in the tabletop game armalion, the units which has lost their group often flee from the battlefield.
but i think the benefit system for the group is more tactically and it is possible to without groups too

[Ken_Oh]

Not really to discourage this, and with all respect, I disagree. There are many, many reasons for units to group together in Wesnoth, even without abilities like Healing and Leadership that effect adjacent units. It takes much more tactical ability employ separation of units, as with Backstab.

[tsr]

where can i see your code?
i want to know how you developed it

You already have it

You have to locate your user-data-folder and inside that is a folder named "TabletopMod" in that is a file named "_main.cfg" and that is all there is to it.

/tsr

[tsr]

Ok, I moved the development of this era into a pack, I think we can continue to talk here until it is complete but then we should move the discussion into the pack-thread

/tsr