new unit to the undead

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Are those the nazgul in the background?
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Nope, there's too many.
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Thinking of undead, they all come from a "magic plane", because their existence is not natural. So they should have more "magic traits". What do you think?

Also, i've been thinking in an hability called "Alignment Cancelation", that cancels the enemy alignment for 1 turn. So if you are legal and someone invoke this magic you will not take benefits from daytime in your next turn. That can be done making that unit neutral for next turn.
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tigrezno wrote:Thinking of undead, they all come from a "magic plane", because their existence is not natural. So they should have more "magic traits". What do you think?.
I think it's the other way around. The bodies and remains and all the material parts actually come from THIS plane, so the magic which allows undead to move etc is actually unnatural, a sort of energy that is here under pressure and shouldn't be here at all. When you dispel undead by using holy weapons or whatever, you are actually squeezing the unnatural magic back to where it came.
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tigrezno wrote:Also, i've been thinking in an hability called "Alignment Cancelation", that cancels the enemy alignment for 1 turn. So if you are legal and someone invoke this magic you will not take benefits from daytime in your next turn. That can be done making that unit neutral for next turn.
Forgot to address this. I think this enforced neutrality thing can work if you create an aura which changes the time of day one hex around the unit (just like the 'light' ability). You can have a dark ability, you can have a neutral ability, you can have an anti-light ability (which makes dark light and light dark). Such units are easy to implement, intuitively easy to use (if you can use a white mage, you can use these) and add variety.
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good, some undead unir should have a dark aura.
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[rant]No **** new abilities!!! There is no reason for it!!! AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOOD IDEAS!!![/rant]

Really, i don't think undead need and new abilities, specials, etc. They have drain in many units, can't be poisoned like normal units, since they are undead, and have dark adepts.
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turin wrote:... can't be poisoned like normal units, since they are undead...
:o explain this to me!!!

And yes, undead have dark adepts, but human have 6 types of mages with lots of magic habilities, and a dark aura is the same as the light aura but in dark color.
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Post by Neoriceisgood »

Why not have a skeleton wielding a giant umbrella that blocks off sunlight?
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Neoriceisgood wrote:Why not have a skeleton wielding a giant umbrella that blocks off sunlight?
Why not have a light mage a giant halogenous lantern that throw light in the darkness?
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Post by Alpha »

I think i prefer Neorice's idea. :wink:
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That wouldn't make sense! How can the mage of light wield his mace and staff AND a huge latern..unless he wore it on his hat...hm

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this topic is becoming [censored].
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Post by Mutxiko »

IMHO, this topic is quite similar to the one I posted some time ago : "A new unit for the Undead".

So why don't you go on with the initial topic about it ? ( moreover a new branch for the Dark Adept fits MUCH better the Leadership ability, IMO )
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