A New Order.

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Re: A New Order.

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Re: A New Order.

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14b: There are keeping > They are keeping

19c: plural^you [this is in some dialog. I think it caused everything before 'you' to be skipped. Either that or ^ is a symbol like a page break and I clicked past the first page w/o seeing it]

19c: AI could have had an easy win on turn 5, which isn't fair because there's no way I could get there in 4 turns to do anything about it
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Re: A New Order.

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Hi getting a wml error at the end Bontom, when you rescue reme. I killed all of the enemy leaders and got invalid WML found [unstored_unit]: variable ‘ano_kyobaine_stored’ doesn’t exist. I’m on iPad
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Re: A New Order.

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So, I played thru this campaign once, during which I made some edits to it, and am now on a second playthru of it to edit it more thoroughly. My initial edits can be found here: https://github.com/cooljeanius/wesnoth_ ... _New_Order
...and my repository for my second-round of full-campaign edits can be found here: https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_New_Order
Right now the things I am working on (or at least thinking of working on) are:
  • Coming up with new AI instructions in S02 (Fighting for Passage) to keep your allies from stealing your kills, which thereby prevents you from getting the EXP you're supposed to get in that scenario
  • Ensuring the gold bonus carryover from The Battle of Barnon into subsequent scenarios works properly, because currently I don't think it has actually been doing that
  • Copyediting
Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: A New Order.

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Re: A New Order.

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S2
of nation destined → of a nation destined

S4
trust Wesnothians → trust the Wesnothians
gp → g

I honestly dislike that this gold I earned by holding the rear is ‘added’ to the gold I had left and then put trough the carryover percentage. Especially since you are likely to go into debt to hold out longer to begin with.
It would help if it was made clear that it is basically an early finish bonus, just calculated in a different way.
Also, boom, 520 bonus gold! XD

Any S5
was ended → was over

S5, Orcs
will do it → will do so
this is territory of my friend,→ this is the territory of my friend, who is / this territory belongs to my friend, who is

I think this map is supposed to have fog and different scenario objectives, like, first you are supposed to scout, then you discover the orcs, the dialogue happens, and the scenario objectives change to defeating all enemy leaders? It would make sense. :(

S7
Kill enemy leader → Kill the enemy leader

Why does the enemy leader run for the Signpost after recruiting 5 units? Wouldn’t it make more sense for him to spend all his gold and then run for said signpost?

fool of a commander → fool for a commander

S8
Raedwood with the hope → Raedwood, hoping
Kill enemy leader. → Kill the enemy leader
quit toying → stop toying
wish your death → wish for your death
of a father → of father

S9
will came here → will come here
Reumario is not given a loyal marker when joining you.

S10
!. → !

S11
respect wisdom → respect the wisdom

S12
gold pieces → gold pieces. / gold.

Karen:
Wesnoth → Wesnoth.
Map: Scouting
Ruvio
warmed to your → warmed up to your
Lorin clan → Lorins clan

After Reme joins you:
th Battle → the Battle

After Barnon
that had established → they had established

6,19
Bontom? of -> Bontom? Of
than gold → than gold.

She-Wolf of Haeltin
_Vakladia_ → probably some kind of marking that word, maybe cursive?
Loren was able to recruit Akladians (because I made Reumario join me when conquering Healtin), but Gawen is not, even though her army joined him. :(

Bontom
not to be → to not be
‘children’ → ‘children’.
were good opponent → were a good opponent
of ancestors → of my ancestors

Avenging Ruen
of burned → of the burned
that Orcs would → that the Orcs could

It would be nice (and quite reasonable) if the peasants in the orcish dungeons are automatically released one you’ve defeated all enemy leaders.

Saorduc Swamps
Side 5 has no starting villages.

Scouting neat Barnon
Understand? → Understood?
why they are here → why are they here
Let him go → Let him go.

Back in Freetown
are main opponents → are the main adversaries
Ruvio stands on a water hex next to a castle hex. Probably a mistake/typo.

Sneaking out of Raedwood
advisers -> advisors

Start of the Quest
quit Readwood → left Raedwood
this was army → this army was
visit Oracle first → visit the Oracle first.

in at the last → at the last

Map: Okladia
5,17
join your army -> army.

Deorien lacks a silver crown.

17,10
the neighbourhood -> neighbourhood.

Gusto (the unit) lacks the loyal marker.

already visisted that place -> place.

Leaving Okladia
was hoped -> had hoped / was hoping

Fall of Freetown
Wesnothian woman -> woman.

The Awakening
_i_ -> I

Return of the King
your kings -> your kings.
in hills -> in the hills


It would be really nice to know how many points you earn through the story.
Like, is 26 a lot? Is it average? I have no idea.
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Re: A New Order.

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OK, I did most of the copyediting suggestions in my fork of this campaign: https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_New_Or ... a4b51f84ed
Some additional comments inline:
Konrad2 wrote: March 17th, 2021, 9:13 am S2
of nation destined → of a nation destined

S4
trust Wesnothians → trust the Wesnothians
gp → g

I honestly dislike that this gold I earned by holding the rear is ‘added’ to the gold I had left and then put trough the carryover percentage. Especially since you are likely to go into debt to hold out longer to begin with.
It would help if it was made clear that it is basically an early finish bonus, just calculated in a different way.
Also, boom, 520 bonus gold! XD
Yeah the way the carryover works here has been kind of confusing to me; I opened this bug about it in my GitHub repo: https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_New_Order/issues/5
Feel free to suggest any ways of improving things you can think of.
Any S5
was ended → was over

S5, Orcs
will do it → will do so
This one is actually in both S5s.
this is territory of my friend,→ this is the territory of my friend, who is / this territory belongs to my friend, who is

I think this map is supposed to have fog and different scenario objectives, like, first you are supposed to scout, then you discover the orcs, the dialogue happens, and the scenario objectives change to defeating all enemy leaders? It would make sense. :(

S7
Kill enemy leader → Kill the enemy leader

Why does the enemy leader run for the Signpost after recruiting 5 units? Wouldn’t it make more sense for him to spend all his gold and then run for said signpost?

fool of a commander → fool for a commander

S8
Raedwood with the hope → Raedwood, hoping
Kill enemy leader. → Kill the enemy leader
quit toying → stop toying
wish your death → wish for your death
of a father → of father

S9
will came here → will come here
Reumario is not given a loyal marker when joining you.

S10
!. → !

S11
respect wisdom → respect the wisdom

S12
gold pieces → gold pieces. / gold.

Karen:
Wesnoth → Wesnoth.

Map: Scouting
Ruvio
warmed to your → warmed up to your
Lorin clan → Lorin's clan

After Reme joins you:
th Battle → the Battle
I don't see this one; I'm assuming I must have gotten it in a previous pass already...
After Barnon
that had established → they had established

6,19
Bontom? of -> Bontom? Of
than gold → than gold.

She-Wolf of Haeltin
_Vakladia_ → probably some kind of marking that word, maybe cursive?
I went with underlining.
Loren was able to recruit Akladians (because I made Reumario join me when conquering Healtin), but Gawen is not, even though her army joined him. :(

Bontom
not to be → to not be
‘children’ → ‘children’.
I don't see the word "children" anywhere in this scenario file.
were good opponent → were a good opponent
of ancestors → of my ancestors

Avenging Ruen
of burned → of the burned
that Orcs would → that the Orcs could

It would be nice (and quite reasonable) if the peasants in the orcish dungeons are automatically released one you’ve defeated all enemy leaders.

Saorduc Swamps
Side 5 has no starting villages.

Scouting neat Barnon
Understand? → Understood?
why they are here → why are they here
Let him go → Let him go.

Back in Freetown
are main opponents → are the main adversaries
Ruvio stands on a water hex next to a castle hex. Probably a mistake/typo.

Sneaking out of Raedwood
advisers -> advisors

Start of the Quest
quit Readwood → left Raedwood
I think I already got this one previously.
this was army → this army was
visit Oracle first → visit the Oracle first.

in at the last → at the last

Map: Okladia
5,17
join your army -> army.

Deorien lacks a silver crown.

17,10
the neighbourhood -> neighbourhood.

Gusto (the unit) lacks the loyal marker.

already visisted that place -> place.

Leaving Okladia
was hoped -> had hoped / was hoping

Fall of Freetown
Wesnothian woman -> woman.

The Awakening
_i_ -> I

Return of the King
your kings -> your kings.
in hills -> in the hills


It would be really nice to know how many points you earn through the story.
Like, is 26 a lot? Is it average? I have no idea.
(specific portions being responded to are now bolded.)
Last edited by egallager on March 18th, 2021, 11:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: A New Order.

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egallager wrote: March 18th, 2021, 8:53 pm
I think you might have quoted to much at once, so often I'm unsure which specific thing you are refering to.

The 'children' thing might be in a macro which is used in that scenario. It is said by Karen, when she scores her first kill. She is competing with Lorin, so it is likely not specific to this scenario, but specific for 'the first scenario after picking up Lorin'.
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Re: A New Order.

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Konrad2 wrote: March 18th, 2021, 10:21 pm
egallager wrote: March 18th, 2021, 8:53 pm
I think you might have quoted to much at once, so often I'm unsure which specific thing you are refering to.

The 'children' thing might be in a macro which is used in that scenario. It is said by Karen, when she scores her first kill. She is competing with Lorin, so it is likely not specific to this scenario, but specific for 'the first scenario after picking up Lorin'.
The comments refer to the portions of the quotes immediately preceding them; I'll go back and bold the specific portions I was responding to in order to make it clearer.

Edit: Done.
Edit 2: OK I found the "children" thing and did another commit to fix that one: https://github.com/cooljeanius/A_New_Or ... ffc41e1c2f
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Re: A New Order.

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amazing campaing
storyline is also awesome
Will new updates come?
turkish translete is good but it need a update.
thanks for this beautiful game
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Re: A New Order.

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I have submitted a pull request that cleans up a lot about this campaign: https://github.com/nemaara/A_New_Order/pull/2
Konrad2, I included some of your copyediting suggestions in my changes if you'd like to review.
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Re: A New Order.

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Yumi merged my pull request; ANO 1.3.0 is out now on the 1.14 add-on server. Please check it out!
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Re: A New Order.

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BUG:

Lvl 1 Alkadian Warrior advances to Lvl 1 Alkadian Leader

Most units are inconsistent in terms of attack type to sprite. Particularly the "Homeguard"-tree.
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Re: A New Order.

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Lord-Knightmare wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 1:15 pm BUG:

Lvl 1 Alkadian Warrior advances to Lvl 1 Alkadian Leader
Oh, so THAT'S what's causing the issues with their units page; I was wondering what had happened to the Warrior on it: https://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/A_New_Or ... Order.html
Most units are inconsistent in terms of attack type to sprite. Particularly the "Homeguard"-tree.
yeah idk what to do about that
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Re: A New Order.

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egallager wrote: April 23rd, 2021, 3:17 am
Lord-Knightmare wrote: April 22nd, 2021, 1:15 pm BUG:

Lvl 1 Alkadian Warrior advances to Lvl 1 Alkadian Leader
Oh, so THAT'S what's causing the issues with their units page; I was wondering what had happened to the Warrior on it: https://units.wesnoth.org/1.14/A_New_Or ... Order.html
Most units are inconsistent in terms of attack type to sprite. Particularly the "Homeguard"-tree.
yeah idk what to do about that
I am a bit surprised that for an add-on which has been around this long, such "bugs" still exist...
Now that I am taking a look, some of the stats hardly make sense. Especially for the healers. :shock:
(do I get XP for healing? Because their damage is so low they can hardly expect any kill XP)
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