more unit characteristics

Iron · Post by **Iron** » October 25th, 2004, 2:40 am

These may or may not be possible in Wesnoth already (sorry if they are), but they're things that I think would be neat additions that'd potentially add a lot to gameplay. These are suggestions only, mentioned only in case the devs find them interesting...

1. Ability to define a unit has having a number of hexes it can move _after_ an attack. Imagine, say, a slow and weak unit with a strong ranged attack. As soon as it is committed to attack it will likely end up exposed to the enemy on the next turn and hence killed. But what if you could retreat it a hex after it attacks?

2. A unit that could attack by blowing itself up, and taking out (or damaging) all units in neighbouring hexes, friendly or enemy.

3. Damage type of confusion. Affected unit stays where it is and can't be told to do anything for a turn, or for however long the damage lasts.

Post by **turin** » October 25th, 2004, 2:45 am

1) would be interesting. it would be nice to have a hit-and-run attack. also, perhaps the same coding or similar could be used for a haste-like specialty.

2,3) been discussed, you might want to do a search for relevant threads.

autolycus · Post by **autolycus** » October 27th, 2004, 5:32 pm

1) is just a sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units. If such a unit can move n hexes after firing on an adjacent unit, it has an effective range of n hexes, which is something I thought was un-Wesnothish.

Post by **Darth Fool** » October 27th, 2004, 5:45 pm

autolycus wrote:1) is just a sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units. If such a unit can move n hexes after firing on an adjacent unit, it has an effective range of n hexes, which is something I thought was un-Wesnothish.

this isn't exactly true, since Zone of Control rules still apply, and even if you also give the unit skirmish, it still can't move through enemy units. So this is not, IMEO, a "sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units". This would be a very useful ability for a scout unit, but I wouldn't want all scout units to have it.

joshbosh321 · Post by **joshbosh321** » October 27th, 2004, 11:03 pm

you might as well just give the unit an attack with the ranged(n) ability, where n is the number of hexes the attack can cover.

Glowing Fish · Post by **Glowing Fish** » October 28th, 2004, 12:05 am

I thought that the idea of a unit that could move and attack multiple times would be awesome, but it would be very disruptive of game play. I imagine a unit that could attack and move two or three or four times in a turn. It would totally disrupt game play.

But it is very interesting.

autolycus · Post by **autolycus** » October 30th, 2004, 1:12 am

Darth Fool wrote:
autolycus wrote:1) is just a sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units. If such a unit can move n hexes after firing on an adjacent unit, it has an effective range of n hexes, which is something I thought was un-Wesnothish.

this isn't exactly true, since Zone of Control rules still apply, and even if you also give the unit skirmish, it still can't move through enemy units. So this is not, IMEO, a "sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units". This would be a very useful ability for a scout unit, but I wouldn't want all scout units to have it.

I don't think ZOC rules can apply to units like this. After all, when you come into contact with an enemy and deliver your attack, you are already in ZOC. If you can step away after that, you have just moved through ZOC for free. So when it is said that you can move n hexes after a battle, you have a free move out of ZOC!

Gafgarion · Post by **Gafgarion** » October 30th, 2004, 1:52 am

autolycus wrote:
Darth Fool wrote:
this isn't exactly true, since Zone of Control rules still apply, and even if you also give the unit skirmish, it still can't move through enemy units. So this is not, IMEO, a "sneaky way of getting 'true' ranged units". This would be a very useful ability for a scout unit, but I wouldn't want all scout units to have it.
I don't think ZOC rules can apply to units like this. After all, when you come into contact with an enemy and deliver your attack, you are already in ZOC. If you can step away after that, you have just moved through ZOC for free. So when it is said that you can move n hexes after a battle, you have a free move out of ZOC!

Note what you said: You have A free move through ZOC, not total free movement.