"Mal-"'s use in non-EI campaigns
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"Mal-"'s use in non-EI campaigns
There seems to be some confusion over my use of the prefix Mal- in EI. Most noticeably, people have started using it as a prefix for the names of ALL undead leaders in other usermade campaigns. And this is not how it is intended to be used...
The prefix Mal- is a title used by those who raise undead, meaning the dark adepts, necromancers, etc, who are members of the Cult of Mal-Ravanal. It is NOT used by their minions, meaning normal, undead units, or by necromancers not members of the Cult*. It (obviously) signifies Bad, Evil, etc, and was chosen to represent their complete Evilness and dedication to Death, Doom, Destruction and Chaos (tm). Their minions, since they have no will of their own, are not intrinsically evil, and thus are not worthy of the title of Mal-. It doesn't really make sense to have revenants, bone shooters, etc, be named Mal-.
Another thing to note is that Dark Adepts should have one syllable after the Mal-, Necromancers 2, Lichs 3, and, if for some reason you have a 4th level enemy, he will be Mal-Ravanal, and thus there is no naming problem as he has a pre-set name. There is no reason behind this, its just something I did to make the more advanced units seem more powerful.
There is no way i can require this, and even if there was i probably wouldn't. However, for the sake of consistency within wesnoth, could we please keep this naming system across campaigns?
*: I am flexible on this point; its OK, but not desirable, to have your enemy necromancers be called Mal-. However, i am not really flexible on the first point.
The prefix Mal- is a title used by those who raise undead, meaning the dark adepts, necromancers, etc, who are members of the Cult of Mal-Ravanal. It is NOT used by their minions, meaning normal, undead units, or by necromancers not members of the Cult*. It (obviously) signifies Bad, Evil, etc, and was chosen to represent their complete Evilness and dedication to Death, Doom, Destruction and Chaos (tm). Their minions, since they have no will of their own, are not intrinsically evil, and thus are not worthy of the title of Mal-. It doesn't really make sense to have revenants, bone shooters, etc, be named Mal-.
Another thing to note is that Dark Adepts should have one syllable after the Mal-, Necromancers 2, Lichs 3, and, if for some reason you have a 4th level enemy, he will be Mal-Ravanal, and thus there is no naming problem as he has a pre-set name. There is no reason behind this, its just something I did to make the more advanced units seem more powerful.
There is no way i can require this, and even if there was i probably wouldn't. However, for the sake of consistency within wesnoth, could we please keep this naming system across campaigns?
*: I am flexible on this point; its OK, but not desirable, to have your enemy necromancers be called Mal-. However, i am not really flexible on the first point.
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Huh? This is about the names of sentient undead leaders borrowed from EI. The drake one is about the generic names (and possibly Markov chain) for drakes. These don't belong together, or even moved. Well, maybe this should be in Scenario and Campaigns forum, but it looks good here too.Viliam wrote:Please put this information to Wiki section "Scenario and graphics", either under "Race Descriptions", or as a new page "Unit names".
Somewhere in the forum there is another topic dealing with the names of Drake units. It would be nice to have all such information in one place.
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Ihiah is a cool name. Really.Circon wrote:While we're on this, how about undead leaders in general: The original "Muff Malaal" spawned both "Muff Janal" and "Ihiah Malal". Any consensus on this?
Muff sounds dumb, though. And Janal sounds too much like Jamal, which makes me think of that dude on the PBS kids show "Ghostwriter", which basically makes the dude sound black.
(insert all manner of tasteless jokes about "black" magic here)
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Isn't one of the HttT liches called Haf-mal? is that covered by this, or is only the prefix mal- being referred to?
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Only prefix mal... though that name should be changed anyway. Its just stupid.Elvish Pillager wrote:Isn't one of the HttT liches called Haf-mal? is that covered by this, or is only the prefix mal- being referred to?
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Cool.Elvish Pillager wrote:Agreed. How's Ka-Niva?turin wrote:that name should be changed anyway. Its just stupid.
We need more names like that for necromancers.
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With drake names, how about this? Most drake units can have any name ie. Neorice's. But, all male drake commanders have names ending in -ar, all female drake commanders have names ending in -ig, and all drake places have names ending in -or.
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