help with faction units!

Caiyln · Post by **Caiyln** » August 23rd, 2007, 2:37 pm

I'm new to creating units, and i worked on some, but I just can't make them look right, they suck ass! I don't know how to shade and make their faces properly, and i was wondering if anybody was interesting in helping me out? Any pointers, anything would be appreciated.

Here are the rough units:

Drake General · Post by **Drake General** » August 23rd, 2007, 2:47 pm

Your people are REALLY red. You might want to use the colors from actually made units.
For black clothing, try using different shades of gray. Look at other units to see how to shade. Same for other objects, like swords and such.
Also, you might not want to use a real world sign on your units, it is wesnoth, not earth

Caiyln · Post by **Caiyln** » August 23rd, 2007, 2:49 pm

haha, true that, thanks bro.

Post by **Urs** » August 23rd, 2007, 3:17 pm

Are you using GIMP? The dodge/burn tool is pretty nice when it comes to easy-shading. Also, even if something is black, it's actually gray. It needs highlights.

Also, using the paintbrush instead of the bucket tool might help. That is, for creating new sprites:

- Concept.
- Outline. Any way you want. Ink tool, pencil tool, etc...
- Color - you can use the bucket or pencil tool for this
- Shading. - Paintbrush/Airbrush

This is a very general workflow. For the best (tm) for flow, go to art contributions, scroll down to art blog,* and read it. All of it.

*Wayfarer - finish it. Pleeasse?

Caiyln · Post by **Caiyln** » August 23rd, 2007, 3:31 pm

What is this GIMP?? I'm using paint, i don't know of GIMP.

Post by **Urs** » August 23rd, 2007, 3:43 pm

The Gnu Image Manipulation Program. Basically open source photoshop.

Did you -at all- read the Art wiki page? And maybe the graphics programs page? Where it says that you need a program which supports alpha channels (transparency)?

Post by **vonHalenbach** » August 23rd, 2007, 4:17 pm

I agree with Urs here. Ms paint is no good.

Ask your father, if you can download gimp.

Nice colors!

Sabata · Post by **Sabata** » August 23rd, 2007, 4:56 pm

vonHalenbach wrote:I agree with Urs here. Ms paint is no good.

False! It depends of artist.... as I know Neo uses MS Paint to do his sprites.... I guess there is no need to say anything else...

Post by **vonHalenbach** » August 23rd, 2007, 5:11 pm

An outstanding good artist like Neo can draw sprites with anything, but i think gimp has more options than paint. It makes it easier.

Caiyln · Post by **Caiyln** » August 23rd, 2007, 6:06 pm

haha, thanks guys.

Caiyln · Post by **Caiyln** » August 24th, 2007, 10:41 pm

ask my dad?? I'm not eight.

Post by **Jetrel** » August 25th, 2007, 4:33 am

Caiyln wrote:ask my dad?? I'm not eight.

The lack of proper grammar leads people to believe otherwise.

Capitalize your sentences. It makes you look more leet, because it makes you look more smart; as if near-perfect grammar is so trivially easy that "laziness as an excuse" doesn't make sense. Sometimes, as with the older members of the community, it's not a veneer; it really is that easy - likewise pretending as practice is the best training for the real thing.

Because if you don't, the insanely smart+skilled people out there will ignore you.

Squig · Post by **Squig** » August 25th, 2007, 5:33 pm

Because if you don't, the insanely smart+skilled people out there will ignore you.

i thought it was insanely sarcastic people?

anyway, as for help, i'm pretty sure you can find some helpful things in the wiki, by example in the "sprite art" part of this page ==> http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/Create_Art

Cuyo Quiz · Post by **Cuyo Quiz** » August 25th, 2007, 8:00 pm

i thought it was insanely sarcastic people?

Dr. House is a very cultured person.

Weeksy · Post by **Weeksy** » August 25th, 2007, 8:04 pm

As is Sam Vimes. Granted, He's got the wrong type of culture, but he's very very cultured, and in his own, predictable way, incredibly intelligent.