Trash Talk/Arguments/Call-Outs

Post by **Doc Paterson** » July 9th, 2005, 5:56 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:
SaintDust wrote:Elvish.
You don't even play multiplayer.
*blink* So I'm supposed to be the one making completely unfounded assertions?

I thought this deserved a trip to the Trash Talk/Call-outs thread.

Funny thing is, I've seen these two on MP at the same time. Surely, a call-out is in order here.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 9th, 2005, 7:20 pm

Doc Paterson wrote:Funny thing is, I've seen these two on MP at the same time. Surely, a call-out is in order here.

Not now, I am tired! I just played (and lost) a bunch of games on my new map, Strategy Island. (I lost because I consistently forgot that I shouldn't spend all my gold on the first turn... ugh.) The best of the matches will shortly be in the replay archive.

Post by **turin** » July 9th, 2005, 8:15 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:
Doc Paterson wrote:Funny thing is, I've seen these two on MP at the same time. Surely, a call-out is in order here.
Not now, I am tired! I just played (and lost) a bunch of games on my new map, Strategy Island. (I lost because I consistently forgot that I shouldn't spend all my gold on the first turn... ugh.) The best of the matches will shortly be in the replay archive.

Ha! I have defeated the pillager of elves! Bow down before me, mortal scum!

EP: Once you rebalance the map, make sure you come crawling for a rematch.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 9th, 2005, 8:33 pm

turin wrote:Ha! I have defeated the pillager of elves! Bow down before me, mortal scum!

EP: Once you rebalance the map, make sure you come crawling for a rematch.

TÃƒÂºrin = Human = Mortal
EP = Elvish = Immortal

Anyway you're not special, a bunch of people beat me on that map, with those settings; we decided that the second player had a powerful advantage, so your victory is completely empty and does not count. In fact, since I almost won anyway, I'd say I played in a clearly superior manner.

I've rebalanced the map, and discovered a strategy to eliminate the second player's remaining advantage. Next time we're on, we can FIGHT!

Post by **Doc Paterson** » July 9th, 2005, 9:03 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:
turin wrote:Ha! I have defeated the pillager of elves! Bow down before me, mortal scum!

EP: Once you rebalance the map, make sure you come crawling for a rematch.
TÃƒÂºrin = Human = Mortal
EP = Elvish = Immortal

Anyway you're not special, a bunch of people beat me on that map, with those settings; we decided that the second player had a powerful advantage,

Hehe- Yeah, I was saying that during the matches, and you were disagreeing!

Glad you've come to your senses.

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 9th, 2005, 9:31 pm

Doc Paterson wrote:Hehe- Yeah, I was saying that during the matches, and you were disagreeing!

Glad you've come to your senses.

lol.

Actually, part of the advantage lies in the two extra villages that I gave the second player. They were gone by the time you started complaining.

The other part is nonexistent.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » July 9th, 2005, 10:35 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:
Doc Paterson wrote:Hehe- Yeah, I was saying that during the matches, and you were disagreeing!

Glad you've come to your senses.
lol.

Actually, part of the advantage lies in the two extra villages that I gave the second player. They were gone by the time you started complaining.

The other part is nonexistent.

Complaining? I was only talking about the recruiting thing being your downfall when you were loosing. Just trying to help a brother out.

The 2 village thing wasn't so huge- I mean really, an extra 4 G per turn in games so short? Doesn't seem like it'd be so crippling to p1. Not that I much care....this map is no child of mine.

Post by **turin** » July 9th, 2005, 10:49 pm

Elvish Pillager wrote:
turin wrote:Ha! I have defeated the pillager of elves! Bow down before me, mortal scum!

EP: Once you rebalance the map, make sure you come crawling for a rematch.
TÃƒÂºrin = Human = Mortal
EP = Elvish = Immortal

*ahem*

Part 19, The Sketch of the Mythology wrote:When the world is much older, and the Gods are weary, Morgoth will come back through the door, and the last battle of all shall be fought. Fionwe will fight Morgoth on the plains of Valinor, and the spirit of TÃƒÂºrin shall be beside him; it shall be TÃƒÂºrin who with his black sword will slay Morgoth, and thus the children of HÃƒÂºrin shall be avenged.

It might just be me, but that sounds a bit more impressive than a puny little elf who runs around burning helpless villagers. And besides, we don't have definite proof that Wesnothian elves are immortal even in the Tolkienian sense (which is not true immortality), only that they are long-lived.

Post by **Dave** » July 9th, 2005, 10:53 pm

Yeah, sadly from a storyline sense, the Elves in Wesnoth don't look all that powerful -- their troops aren't really much more powerful than humans or orcs.

This is necessary from a gameplay point of view though, I think.

If I was leading an RPG project though, Elves would be much more powerful.

David

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 10th, 2005, 12:05 pm

turin wrote:
Part 19, The Sketch of the Mythology wrote:When the world is much older, and the Gods are weary, Morgoth will come back through the door, and the last battle of all shall be fought. Fionwe will fight Morgoth on the plains of Valinor, and the spirit of TÃƒÂºrin shall be beside him; it shall be TÃƒÂºrin who with his black sword will slay Morgoth, and thus the children of HÃƒÂºrin shall be avenged.

You mean TÃƒÂºrin gets to have a ghostie after he's dead? Then he's not even human, he doesn't even have the gifts of Illuvatar to all humans! And anyway that mythology is pretty incomplete if it doesn't mention the torch-wielding Elf on a Wolf who will command the armies of Morgoth, and also who will sneak up behind the spirit of TÃƒÂºrin and backstab him to death with a flaming torch.

turin wrote:It might just be me, but that sounds a bit more impressive than a puny little elf who runs around burning helpless villagers.

I have a 5-swing Fire Backstab melee attack and I command armies that slaughter greater enemy armies without suffering any casualties. I cause the very land around me to rise up and conform to my whims. I change entirely the scheme of employment throughout the land and I summon Chocobones to do my bidding. And you call that puny? You, who are a mere mortal with the stubbornness to cling to the life that Illuvatar would grant you the gift of losing, and thereby becoming a wannabe-elf and losing your very humanity?

turin wrote:And besides, we don't have definite proof that Wesnothian elves are immortal

They *do* die of old age (according to Unrest in Elfland) and so do humans (according to Heir to the Throne), BUT --- Elves are immortal. They just are. And humans aren't. That's just the way it is, you cannot question it.

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » July 10th, 2005, 12:48 pm

tux will deafeat you both!

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 10th, 2005, 4:08 pm

Just be glad it took me this long to get to him.

Tomsik · Post by **Tomsik** » July 10th, 2005, 5:13 pm

only patents can deafeat him! you cannot pass!

Elvish_Pillager · Post by **Elvish_Pillager** » July 10th, 2005, 5:16 pm

tomsik wrote:only patents can deafeat him! you cannot pass!

I am the servant of the Very Blatant And Obvious Fire. You cannot live!

Assasin · Post by **Assasin** » July 10th, 2005, 5:23 pm

when are you guys on? Every time I log on I only meet a bunch of boring french speaking noobs.