"Earth names" for named units

[lotsofphil]

The 1.7.0 players changelog says
http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags ... w=download
"In TROW, the Lady Jessica is now the Lady Jessene. This was the last major character in mainline (and probably the last named unit of any kind) to have an earth-human name."

Not sure what the goal is here, but in SotBE Scenario 1, the enemy leader is named Albert. I know earth-humans named Albert.

[Ken_Oh]

What about Konrad?

[lotsofphil]

Like I said, I don't know what the goal of purging earth-human names is. Thought I would point this one out when I came across it. Maybe it is actually French, so it is okay in the english version. I'll go back and try and defeat "Al-behr".

[Eskon]

I opened a thread about Konrad too. Someone got overly excited prematurely

[Turuk]

Sangel described it best:

It sounds like the change-log author indulged in a little bit of Anglocentrism there. All real-world English names have been removed from the game (the English spelling is "Conrad"). I suppose the German spelling "Konrad" makes the name sound more fantasy-like to English players.

[HomerJ]

I'd like to add Anita from NR just for the records.


Greetz
HomerJ

[Thanatos]

I'd like to add Anita from NR just for the records.


Greetz
HomerJ

True. No German could ever forget this name. Thanks Mr. Cordalis.

[Turuk]

Anita would be of Spanish origin.

Thus, still falling under "All the English names have been removed from the game."

[thespaceinvader]

Not really, anita is a common name in Britain. Not hugely, but it's definitely been adopted as an Anglophone name.

I think whoever it was who wrote that got a little carried away...

[Turuk]

Not really, anita is a common name in Britain. Not hugely, but it's definitely been adopted as an Anglophone name.

Indeed, I'm not talking about commonality, as there are a variety of names that have jumped cultures to be popular elsewhere in the world, I am merely speaking of where the name originated from in reference to removing all English names.

[thespaceinvader]

Origins do not necessarily denote language - the point I'm trying to make is that Anita is also an English name with spanish origins, as well as a spanish name in itself.

[Turuk]

So if I have a daughter and name her Anita, and a man in Spain has a daughter and names her Anita, the names are different because we do not speak the same native language?

[thespaceinvader]

Nope, they're the same word (or name) in different languages.

Same as if I say the word 'science' in English, and the word 'sceince' in French - same word, same meaning, different languages

[Turuk]

Nope, they're the same word (or name) in different languages.

Same as if I say the word 'science' in English, and the word 'sceince' in French - same word, same meaning, different languages

That's my point. If they are the same, then the origin of the name should be all that matters when they have removed all English names from the game.

Though I see what you are saying, that all real-world names could be removed as well, as Wesnoth has an international community and so some of the "foreign" names are commonplace for some people.

[thespaceinvader]

It's a bit of a moot point anyway, given that the original statement at issue is that all earth-human names have been removed from mainline. Which clearly isn't true.

I'd be wiling to be there's at lease one 'Jessene' out there, too. 'There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies', after all...