Why don't we have a Troll Era?

[Boldek]

Sand troll? Since trolls are stony, maybe having a sandy troll would be cool.

[powershot]

Mhhh.........
http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php ... 9&start=64

[alluton]

Yeah it was considered earlier. BUt having cave trolls,sand trolls.water trolls.swamp trolls didnt really sound like the unit lineup we wanted to do.

[ZhuQ]

I might be too late to say anything but:
Regarding the Zerker Troll lineup,I really think the teeth and fists should be swapped over.. Not from a gameplay aspect but from a logical perspective? Is it just me or am I the only person who thinks bitting an object is faster than punching it? (put a small target somewhere and try and 'bite' it as fast as you can, then try and 'punch' it as fast as possible, you'll see what I mean.)

Just me being particularly pedantic. Despite my unforgiving nit-pickings this looks really good! Come quite a distance from when it first started out. Well done all of you.

ZhuQ_

[Great_Mage_Atari]

I might be too late to say anything but:
Regarding the Zerker Troll lineup,I really think the teeth and fists should be swapped over.. Not from a gameplay aspect but from a logical perspective? Is it just me or am I the only person who thinks bitting an object is faster than punching it? (put a small target somewhere and try and 'bite' it as fast as you can, then try and 'punch' it as fast as possible, you'll see what I mean.)

Just me being particularly pedantic. Despite my unforgiving nit-pickings this looks really good! Come quite a distance from when it first started out. Well done all of you.

ZhuQ_

WINR.

[alluton]

WINR?

edit: it is fastenr to bite. But you can hit from greater distance. And biting enemy pretty much makes you vulrnerable( i dont know how to spell it) So there would be many factors to take count. But this game isnt ment so complicated.

[Great_Mage_Atari]

WINR= Wesnoth is not reality

[alluton]

Reality sucks. Thats why we got wesnoth

No one likes to play when you get hurt when your units die.

[Blarumyrran]

A troll from me.

[BLAST]

Bite having more strikes makes since because once u have your head right by something u can bite it very fast

I might be too late to say anything but:
Regarding the Zerker Troll lineup,I really think the teeth and fists should be swapped over.. Not from a gameplay aspect but from a logical perspective? Is it just me or am I the only person who thinks bitting an object is faster than punching it? (put a small target somewhere and try and 'bite' it as fast as you can, then try and 'punch' it as fast as possible, you'll see what I mean.)

Just me being particularly pedantic. Despite my unforgiving nit-pickings this looks really good! Come quite a distance from when it first started out. Well done all of you.

ZhuQ_

[BLAST]

@Blarumyrran: The troll looks good, but I think we want our trolls to be more of an Ape/Human construction and your troll's chest/front looks more like an animal meant go around on all fours. Also, i think that the torso is a little bit crunched... maybe elongate it somewhat. Lastly, the head looks too smooth and clear-cut to go with the rugged body (and visa-versa)

[Blarumyrran]

@Blarumyrran: The troll looks good

I agree

but I think we want our trolls to be more of an Ape/Human construction

I do not want our trolls to be more of an Ape/Human construction

and your troll's chest/front looks more like an animal meant go around on all fours.

That is correct

Also, i think that the torso is a little bit crunched... maybe elongate it somewhat.

No

Lastly, the head looks too smooth and clear-cut to go with the rugged body (and visa-versa)

I disagree.

[BLAST]

Firstly I want to say that I greatly appreciate that you are interested in doing troll image(s) for the faction and I am open to improving ideas.

I do not want our trolls to be more of an Ape/Human construction

How, in your mind, do you view the Trolls as being constructed? In Wesnoth's history they either stand erect, or crouch and walk while stabling themselves with their knuckles

Also, i think that the torso is a little bit crunched... maybe elongate it somewhat.

No

I guess that would be a matter of view point, but do we want the troll quartering towards us, or facing nearly directly towards us?

Lastly, the head looks too smooth and clear-cut to go with the rugged body (and visa-versa)

I disagree.

Well, when looking at your image, I would say that with all the ruggedness of the body, the head should include some of that, ie., look a little more scarred, have the ears messed up somewhat from countless fights, etc...

[Blarumyrran]

How, in your mind, do you view the Trolls as being constructed?

As mythical creatures whose anatomy is that which is implied by sprites & portraits. Most players ignore unit descriptions and such, and I think that is excellent, and the way it should be. I realize that in Wesnoth there needs to be some "explicit history" (history not implied by graphics & audio assets & unit names) due to the huge number of "contributors" who must have some axis of coherence between them, but even then that axis should be as weak as possible

In Wesnoth's history they either stand erect, or crouch and walk while stabling themselves with their knuckles

But obviously assets determine history, not the other way round

No

I guess that would be a matter of view point, but do we want the troll quartering towards us, or facing nearly directly towards us?

Sorry, english is not my first language; what does quartering mean (other than sawing a person into quarters)?

I disagree.

Well, when looking at your image, I would say that with all the ruggedness of the body, the head should include some of that, ie., look a little more scarred, have the ears messed up somewhat from countless fights, etc...

I disagree

[powershot]

Subject: Why don't we have a Troll Era?

A troll from me.

An Imperial AT-AT Troll walker.

@Blarumyrran: This is their project, you can't really disagree.