Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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Wall of Sorrow is my 1v1 multiplayer map designed for standard gameplay. The name is just something what came to my mind when browsing my dictionary so I might change it. I was thinking about submitting this to the Winter 2009 - Map Making Contest but I need feedback & replays first. A lot of them. :? I afraid, I will run out of time but we'll see.

Gameplay

The biggest battles should take place in the centre but the mountain passages make it possible to launch surprise attacks. The players' keeps are connected with castles and water terrain so water units might prove themselves semi-useful. They shouldn't be a necessity but they also shouldn't be an absolute no-no. There are couple of forward keeps, one of them near the centre, so it should be easier to fight with your leader and play more aggressively.

Aesthetics

The map looks too green... :annoyed:
It should be a burned, demolished and annihilated battlefield! FIREEE!
The wall looks good now, though. Well, it can be recognized as a wall and it doesn't break the balance (other things already do that, I afraid...).



Feedback, replays, comments, anything, please.
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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Always wanted my very own wall.
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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Drake Warrior can reach the front keep in 2 rounds, whereas every other leader takes three.
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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Caphriel wrote:Drake Warrior can reach the front keep in 2 rounds, whereas every other leader takes three.
no, every leader with 6 MP can reach the front keep within 2 rounds
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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So they can. That's what I get for trying to count hexes on the screenshot, rather than downloading it, I suppose :roll: I'm not sure if it's a problem or not, the amount of space between the two players and lack of easily rushable targets may make it not a problem.
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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It is definitely a balance issue. Either all leaders should take 1, 2, or 3 turns to get to that keep... having a 6mp leader is advantageous already... Getting to that front keep early would mean putting pressure on the opposing side a turn earlier, an advantage that shouldn't exist.

As for asthetics, the map seems to be fairly mono-tone. It only has one mix of terrain throughout the entire map. I would suggest mixing it up a bit, and using a variety of terrain to accomplish the ideal look you were going for. Now this mostly opinion, but I think it'd make your map more interesting visually.
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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F8 Binds... wrote:It is definitely a balance issue. Either all leaders should take 1, 2, or 3 turns to get to that keep... having a 6mp leader is advantageous already... Getting to that front keep early would mean putting pressure on the opposing side a turn earlier, an advantage that shouldn't exist.
hmm, although i love to have a tactical advantage by chosing a 6 MP leader, i can agree with that.

should be easy enough to fix though. just place the keep one hex farther away (on the hex which hold the swamp village (or whatever that is). that should work fine and would allow all leaders to reach the keep within 3 turns.

or ... place the keep two hexes nearer and remove the hill in front of it, so that all leaders can reach it in 2 turns
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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There's another problem with the positioning. A quick bat, glider, gryphon, or elvish scout recruited at the front keep hex of the starting castle can reach the enemy keep in two turns (or the enemy village that's near the keep) from the friendly village near the keep. P1 advantage much?
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Re: Wall of Sorrow (standard MP map)

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All issues noted and fixed. Thank you for your feedback!

No screenshot & download yet because I am re-thinking the aesthetics (thank you, F8 Binds).
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