New Map! ~ Expansion (2v2)

Post by **F8 Binds...** » May 14th, 2007, 1:39 am

The latest of my map creations... I present Expansion! The goal of the map was to have the two teams on separate islands, with combat occurring on the mainland. Simple as that. Basic settings, though possibly 75 gold. 1221.
(cavewall = shroud)
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Troy · Post by **Troy** » May 14th, 2007, 1:53 am

I am speech less

THIS IS A AWSOME MAP

I LOVE it

Drake Blademaster · Post by **Drake Blademaster** » May 14th, 2007, 2:35 am

Just curious, though, why is there cave wall / shroud / whatever in the middle of the map?

Post by **F8 Binds...** » May 14th, 2007, 9:02 pm

To keep drakes from assassinating the other leaders on turn two, I managed to do it with 2 drake fighters and a flare leader, add in day and you should kill the enemy leader. Think about it- 11-3 (or 12-3) for each fighter under those conditions, add in the 9-4 ranged or 10-3 melee of the flare... and you get a very good chance to assassinate the other leader. 33+33+36= 102 possible damage, which can kill any level 2 in the entire game. Period. (Any comments, even if they just say "that's a cool map!" ? No comments suggests my map is so perfect it should go into mainline.)

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » May 14th, 2007, 10:28 pm

its a very good map though the assasination on turn two may still be possible, (have not tested). You solved side one demolishing side two, but the shroud may need to be extended slightly by a hex or two to prevent one from killing three.(or two killing four)

overall good work.

edit: i was going to make another post after testing the above but my computer wont download the map

Post by **F8 Binds...** » May 14th, 2007, 10:52 pm

It is theoretically impossible for P1 to kill any other player on turn two, due to the fact that no units (other than quick gliders and gryphons) can reach any villages player 3 would take with his leader on turn 1. And quick gryphons are dead meat compared to the other units you've recruited, and one dying means the player lost a third of his starting gold. Sure, IT IS POSSIBLE, but what is the chance of getting two quick gryphons, let alone hit 4 times in 60% defense? Do the math yourself and figure out. You should get a really small number, perhaps less than 1%.

paperclip boy · Post by **paperclip boy** » May 15th, 2007, 3:28 am

I have nothing to do

so ill replay to your topic F8 Binds

. After all ive seen most of your maps

and this one is really good

. Well see ya later F8 Binds

. and good map

Drake Blademaster · Post by **Drake Blademaster** » May 15th, 2007, 3:29 am

Why must you have such a long signature?!?!?!?!?!

paperclip boy · Post by **paperclip boy** » May 15th, 2007, 3:37 am

Drake Blademaster wrote:Why must you have such a long signature?!?!?!?!?!

Because it want a long signature

Drake Blademaster · Post by **Drake Blademaster** » May 15th, 2007, 3:46 am

Well, at least it's not just one long line now.

Post by **F8 Binds...** » May 15th, 2007, 3:50 am

Revision, covering the following problems-
* Although drakes cannot assassinate the enemy leader early on, they still can get early advantage. Castle arrangements were made to compensate for it.
* All players with any leader can get to the secondary keep by turn 2. Villages were moved and added.
* Village stealing was a big problem in one of our testing games, and there weren't enough units to stop it. Therefore a settings change (75 starting gold -> 100) is now in place and some deep water was added to stop elusivefoots from stealing villages, though flying units can still attempt it.
* Other small changes were made, such as the adding of deep water around the shroud. These are not very noticeable however and you shan't notice them.

Version 2!
(again, cavewall= shroud)

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My friend, Paperclip Boy... is crazy. Accept it, I deal with him almost every day. (In real life) Though that signature takes it to a new level...

paperclip boy · Post by **paperclip boy** » October 9th, 2007, 9:42 pm

Yep that the way i roll.

appleide · Post by **appleide** » October 9th, 2007, 11:14 pm

Neat Concept! Though I still fear Drake's mobility would still unbalance the map.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » October 10th, 2007, 2:38 pm

appleide wrote:Neat Concept! Though I still fear Drake's mobility would still unbalance the map.

I agree that this has drakeish holiday potential, and that certain factional matchups could be very rough. As the map is now, Drake/Undead would be very difficult for Undead, and Drake/Loy, Knalgan/Loy would be similarly tough for Loy. For the time being, I'd recommend giving water units a bit more access to/attack hexes on the villages.

Post by **Doc Paterson** » October 10th, 2007, 2:39 pm

paperclip boy wrote:Yep that the way i roll.

Are those thylacines on your avatar? It's difficult to see.....

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