Actually kind of good idea for Dwarf Scout

Ryorin · Post by **Ryorin** » February 1st, 2006, 1:57 am

The Frost wolves. I have decided that the Frost Wolves are probably the best bet for a non-Outlaw Dwarvish scout. They would have comparable speed to a Wolf Rider, perhaps one faster because they don't have to carry anyone. I haven't worked out stats/grafics yet, because I wanted to test the waters first.

houli · Post by **houli** » February 1st, 2006, 2:24 am

dwarves have a scout. ever heard of gryphon?

Duke Guillermo · Post by **Duke Guillermo** » February 1st, 2006, 3:25 am

...and the footpad.

Plus the Knalgan Alliance already has the highest # of recruitable units. This unit would be filling a void that doesn't exist, in my eyes.

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » February 1st, 2006, 11:50 am

True. Gryphons are already good enough.
Except in caves, but dwarves are already good enough there.

Post by **Neoriceisgood** » February 1st, 2006, 12:55 pm

How are Frost Wolves better fit for dwarves than my Mountain Goats? Huh?

HUH?!

Cuyo Quiz · Post by **Cuyo Quiz** » February 1st, 2006, 8:51 pm

Neoriceisgood wrote:How are Frost Wolves better fit for dwarves than my Mountain Goats? Huh?

HUH?!

I know, it's preposterous. Although i still want to drop the Outlaws and change them with similar but different flavored units, i don't think it should be done until there are replacements for all of the Outlaws.

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » February 1st, 2006, 9:09 pm

and I still want the outlaws as a seperate faction.

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » February 1st, 2006, 9:12 pm

Ranger M wrote:and I still want the outlaws as a seperate faction.

Would be great, with the LVL3 outlaw pack.

Dwarves need units that are not too weak on forest and grassland, and then they would be good. Trouble is dwarves can't be. They would need any kind of alliance with another race, like they have with gryphons.

Ranger M · Post by **Ranger M** » February 1st, 2006, 9:14 pm

I noticed somthing a while back, why do dwarves get no movement panelty in forests?

or was it just an error in legend of Wesmere?

EDIT: also are the runner and runemaster going to be added to the dwarves? cause they rock.

Ryorin · Post by **Ryorin** » February 2nd, 2006, 1:54 am

I thought that a Frost Wolf, domesticated like a normal dog, would be a superior scout for mountainous terrain. Unlike Goats, Badgers, and Gyrocopters. Furthermore I support the split of Outlaws and Dwarves, I don't think it makes an ounce of sense. Therefore that would eliminate the Footpad, also the Gryphon Rider is a bit expensive to be a scout. At least in my opinion.

Tux2B · Post by **Tux2B** » February 2nd, 2006, 10:01 am

The gryphon rider is expensive, and that's why adding the runner would be good. Adding the runemaster would be great, because it's a good unit, but I think that if it hasn't be done yet it's because of balancing problems.
And wolves are used most of all by orcs, so it would be kind of odd to see them in a dwarvish faction.

Duke Guillermo · Post by **Duke Guillermo** » February 2nd, 2006, 11:54 am

Yeah, it just doesn't feel right. The Knalgans already have one group of units that some seem to think don't make any sense, the Outlaws. Making them allied to wolves would make even less sense, in my eyes, and is unnecessary with the way the Knalgan Alliance is currently structured.

Post by **turin** » February 2nd, 2006, 10:21 pm

IMHO, the Runemaster should be added, but I'm not sure how. As a new line? As a branch of the Fighter? As a non-recruitable leader unit (like the Lieutenant)?

I don't particularly like the idea of frost wolves as dwarvish scouts. Why would dwarves ally with wolves? The orcs have wolves already. And besides, it seems stupid to me to have an unmounted beast unit be controlled by a side, especially if there are no magi or anything to control them, a la the beastmasters... although I guess you could make an argument that they are (semi-)intelligent beings.

purki · Post by **purki** » February 3rd, 2006, 9:26 am

outlaws as a own race are great, with the LVL 3 outlaw pack they are strong enough

the dwarfes will recruit then

fighter (advance to runemaster)

thunderer

guardsman

runner

and gryphons

but is that enough for a race?

toms · Post by **toms** » February 3rd, 2006, 9:32 am

purki wrote:outlaws as a own race are great, with the LVL 3 outlaw pack they are strong enough

the dwarfes will recruit then

fighter (advance to runemaster)
thunderer
guardsman
runner
and gryphons

but is that enough for a race?

Yes, because they are stronger than the other units.