Improving Drake Gliders

Post by **Velensk** » April 2nd, 2007, 8:44 pm

They don't have skirmish they are just so fast they can get around stuff.

Ultimatum479 · Post by **Ultimatum479** » April 2nd, 2007, 9:04 pm

...Oh. Wow. Their MP is higher than Gryphons then?

I'm going to stop asking questions about units and start opening BfW and checking the stats myself. Hold up. This post shall be edited.

thissneppah · Post by **thissneppah** » April 3rd, 2007, 2:28 pm

Ultimatum479 wrote:I'm going to stop asking questions about units and start opening BfW and checking the stats myself.

ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s probably easer to go to http://zapicm.freeshell.org/, Wesnoth unit tree site. You can get to it from Wesnoth website by going on play section then looking for Ã¢â‚¬Å“Unit ReferenceÃ¢â‚¬?. Hope itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s helpful.

And Drake Glider has 8 MP as does Gryphon Rider.

tw · Post by tw » April 3rd, 2007, 5:53 pm

If the Glider needs to be more resilient, I think it would be better to up the HP. Because Drakes are supposed to have low defence% on the grounds they're so big. You can't tweak stats for game balance without also paying regard to 'in-world' expectations.

When I've played them I find they die rather too easily, but I've found the same for ghosts, vampire bats, and elvish scouts. It's to be expected that a faster unit will die more easily.

Cackfiend · Post by **Cackfiend** » April 3rd, 2007, 5:54 pm

29 hps on a quick intelligent glider hurts too, a single dark adept can kill it at DUSK/DAWN (edit) =[

Ultimatum479 · Post by **Ultimatum479** » April 3rd, 2007, 8:18 pm

A single Dark Adept can kill a lot of things at night.

Post by **Wintermute** » April 3rd, 2007, 9:28 pm

Cackfiend wrote:29 hps on a quick intelligent glider hurts too, a single dark adept can kill it at night =[

And a dark adept is in range of a quick (and rumor has it smart) glider at night why? Or any drake for that matter? an adept can also kill a quick int fighter and quick int burner at night.

The moral is: If you have drakes in range of adepts at night, expect death!

It may also be worth noting that a clasher can kill an adept in the day, and if the clasher is strong, and the adept insn't resillient, it has a 50% chance to do so if the adept is on grass. So do adepts need more hp or better defense? I doubt it. But perhaps they shouldn't be on grass in range of a clasher in the day...

Cackfiend · Post by **Cackfiend** » April 4th, 2007, 1:01 am

Wintermute wrote:an adept can also kill a quick int fighter and quick int burner at night.

this is incorrect as an intelligent quick fighter and burner have more than 30 hps (edit) again... at dawn/dusk... not at night =/

Cackfiend · Post by **Cackfiend** » April 4th, 2007, 1:02 am

Ultimatum479 wrote:A single Dark Adept can kill a lot of things at night.

no it cannot

a dark adept will do 12 dmg to most units during the night, and most units have more than 24 hps

Post by **Wintermute** » April 4th, 2007, 2:29 am

Cackfiend wrote:
Wintermute wrote:an adept can also kill a quick int fighter and quick int burner at night.
this is incorrect as an intelligent quick fighter and burner have more than 30 hps

they do indeed... and adepts do 19-2 at night...

Post by **Mythological** » April 4th, 2007, 2:31 am

Just for info : adepts deal 19-2 to drakes at night

Drake Blademaster · Post by **Drake Blademaster** » April 4th, 2007, 2:32 am

Mythological wrote:Just for info : adepts deal 19-2 to drakes at night

I've won because of that.

Cackfiend · Post by **Cackfiend** » April 4th, 2007, 2:54 am

OOPS my bad, i meant that they can kill a 29 hp glider during dusk/dawn

sorry for the confusion

Cackfiend · Post by **Cackfiend** » April 4th, 2007, 2:56 am

for the record i almost never leave drakes in range of DA's during night but sometimes do during dusk/dawn

reason i posted the 29 hp thing was cuz i had just lost a glider due to a DA attacking at dawn/dusk because i had a brain hiccup and thought they were only doing 14 a pop to me

again sorry for the confusion

Martinus · Post by **Martinus** » April 10th, 2007, 12:58 am

If any of the scout units should get better it is bat. He costs almost as much as spearman, and apart from being 0lvl scout aint good at nothing (apart of scouting, stealing villages, and so) It would be better if he could survive a little more than attack of 1 unit, or just cost less, but... I probably ask for too much;) .