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- In_My_CrossHairs
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Re: What are you reading right now?
I'm currently reading
1: Warlords By Simon Berthon
2: The Siege of Mecca By Yaroslav Trofimov
1: Warlords By Simon Berthon
2: The Siege of Mecca By Yaroslav Trofimov
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
- Edmund Burke (1729-1797), British statesman and philosopher
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.
Friedrich Nietzsche
- Edmund Burke (1729-1797), British statesman and philosopher
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Re: What are you reading right now?
Currently trying to find Speaker for the Dead and Children of the Mind (you know, same series as Ender's Game) at the local library. In the meantime, however, I'm reading the Constitution. Good life concepts, but low on action.
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Re: What are you reading right now?
good for you. Orson Scott Card is definitely up there on my list of favorite authors mostly because of the whole Ender series.Zaphod wrote:Currently trying to find Speaker for the Dead and Children of the Mind (you know, same series as Ender's Game)
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Re: What are you reading right now?
Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value Problems, Eighth Edition, by William E. Boyce and Richard C. DiPrima. One of the many hazards of choosing a career in engineering. That, and you don't often get to read what you want to read, only what the professor tells you to read.
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- Midnight_Carnival
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Re: What are you reading right now?
The great thing about this thread is that you can come back to it after a while and you will be reading something different. This means you can post multiple times on the same thread without even having an opinion.
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Re: What are you reading right now?
An Introduction to Ordinary Differential Equationsscienceguy8 wrote:Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value Problems, Eighth Edition, by William E. Boyce and Richard C. DiPrima. One of the many hazards of choosing a career in engineering. That, and you don't often get to read what you want to read, only what the professor tells you to read.
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maybe i get to look at your one next year
hopefully not.. I'm maths not engineering and find the really physicsy parts difficult
Re: What are you reading right now?
I'm not sure about your perspective while reading Warlords (given your idiotic title), but if you want a more in depth idea about some of the common traits possessed by great war statesmen, I encourage you to read Eliot Cohen's Supreme Command. It covers Four great leaders and how they interacted with their militaries during a time of crisis; Lincoln, Clemenceau, Churchill and Ben-Gurion.In_My_CrossHairs wrote:I'm currently reading
1: Warlords By Simon Berthon
2: The Siege of Mecca By Yaroslav Trofimov
I suspect having one foot in the past is the best way to understand the present.
Don Hewitt.
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Re: What are you reading right now?
A History of Warfare by John Keegan.
On War by Clausewitz (Peter Paret translation)
I plan to read these soon:
Makers of Modern Strategy from Machiavelli to the Nuclear Age by Peter Paret
and
Masters of War: Classical Strategic Thought by Michael Handel
On War by Clausewitz (Peter Paret translation)
I plan to read these soon:
Makers of Modern Strategy from Machiavelli to the Nuclear Age by Peter Paret
and
Masters of War: Classical Strategic Thought by Michael Handel
Redrock Gulch (Winter 2009 Map Contest Submission)
To rely on rustics and not prepare is the greatest of crimes; to be prepared beforehand for any contingency is the greatest of Virtues. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
To rely on rustics and not prepare is the greatest of crimes; to be prepared beforehand for any contingency is the greatest of Virtues. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Re: What are you reading right now?
Finally got a hold of Epiphany of the Long Sun (the second half of the Book of the Long Sun). It's really good; basically, a contemplation of religion and ethics and politics set on a generation starship...
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Re: What are you reading right now?
wow, an awful lot of war books there.Deciero wrote:A History of Warfare by John Keegan.
On War by Clausewitz (Peter Paret translation)
I plan to read these soon:
Makers of Modern Strategy from Machiavelli to the Nuclear Age by Peter Paret
and
Masters of War: Classical Strategic Thought by Michael Handel
Right now I'm reading The Grapes of Wrath. It's a good book and i'd probably be enjoying it if it weren't for the fact that my teacher makes us keep a journal and literally take breaks every few pages to "record our thoughts"
Re: What are you reading right now?
Well, this is a war game forum. I decided to put what was relevant.Limabean wrote: wow, an awful lot of war books there.
Redrock Gulch (Winter 2009 Map Contest Submission)
To rely on rustics and not prepare is the greatest of crimes; to be prepared beforehand for any contingency is the greatest of Virtues. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
To rely on rustics and not prepare is the greatest of crimes; to be prepared beforehand for any contingency is the greatest of Virtues. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
- Rex Umbrarum
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Re: What are you reading right now?
That sort of thing ruined quite a few books for me. I had to find three specific quotes referencing the role of women in every chapter of To Kill a Mockingbird.Limabean wrote:Right now I'm reading The Grapes of Wrath. It's a good book and i'd probably be enjoying it if it weren't for the fact that my teacher makes us keep a journal and literally take breaks every few pages to "record our thoughts"
And now I'm (re)reading "The Best of the Best: 20 years of the Year's Best Science Fiction," a collection of short stories and somewhat less short stories. I like it a lot, bunch of cool situations in there.
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Re: What are you reading right now?
Currently reading "The Three Musketeers" by Alexandre Dumas. Good stuff, can't believe I didn't read it earlier. Wicked illustrations, too.
Essentially, the book was a cautionary tale about making robots that emulate all the 'finer details' of being human (such as movements, appearance, and interpersonal behaviour), but are only putting on the appearance of doing so. Robots that act human, but have no emotions, no remorse, and no feelings. The replicants were the villains of the story, and I think the story ambiguously foreshadowed a conspiracy on their part to gradually take everything over (kind of like the plot of the matrix series).
The movie was the opposite - it was a cautionary tale about making robots* that -were- essentially human, but were being treated inhumanely. The replicants were sort of tragic heroes, struggling against the bad fate they'd been born into (such as a 4-year lifespan). And we were the villain for creating them with that fate.
Warning - cataclysmic spoilers if you watch the following clip, but it is really sweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7DBo9Y ... re=related
* one thing about the movie version is that they weren't really mechanical, so much as biological robots - they were basically artificially bioengineered humans, designed to be smarter, and stronger than humans. They were preprogrammed with memories so they wouldn't know that they weren't human, and they were used off-planet in slave labor and slave military work. They were 'born/built' in full adult form, and would just keel over and die four years after they were created (as a failsafe to keep them from revolting).
This is one of the rare, rare cases where I think the "movie adaptation" was *better* than the book, because of major changes to the plot.turin wrote:* Read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, by Philip K. Dick - the book Blade Runner was based on, I hear, though I haven't seen the movie. Really good book, lots of you have probably read it; it's about a bounty hunter on earth whose job is to 'retire' rogue androids. A lot of the book is exploring whether there is a fundamental difference between android and human, and what the significance of emotions is.
Essentially, the book was a cautionary tale about making robots that emulate all the 'finer details' of being human (such as movements, appearance, and interpersonal behaviour), but are only putting on the appearance of doing so. Robots that act human, but have no emotions, no remorse, and no feelings. The replicants were the villains of the story, and I think the story ambiguously foreshadowed a conspiracy on their part to gradually take everything over (kind of like the plot of the matrix series).
The movie was the opposite - it was a cautionary tale about making robots* that -were- essentially human, but were being treated inhumanely. The replicants were sort of tragic heroes, struggling against the bad fate they'd been born into (such as a 4-year lifespan). And we were the villain for creating them with that fate.
Warning - cataclysmic spoilers if you watch the following clip, but it is really sweet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7DBo9Y ... re=related
* one thing about the movie version is that they weren't really mechanical, so much as biological robots - they were basically artificially bioengineered humans, designed to be smarter, and stronger than humans. They were preprogrammed with memories so they wouldn't know that they weren't human, and they were used off-planet in slave labor and slave military work. They were 'born/built' in full adult form, and would just keel over and die four years after they were created (as a failsafe to keep them from revolting).
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- Midnight_Carnival
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Re: What are you reading right now?
50% agree.This is one of the rare, rare cases where I think the "movie adaptation" was *better* than the book, because of major changes to the plot.
Phillip K Dick himself was apparently dead against the movie before he saw the fx and promply claimed that the atmosphere, setting, ect... was as he imagined it when he wrote the book. His style is distinctive, he builds up to a paranoid climax or anti climax, but sometimes he lets it just die along the way. Sometimes the stories which just die are not so bad. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was not one of my favorite of his works, and I haven't ever seen the movie (though I have read a number of reviews and sumaries...). What I have noticed about Dick is that people do not make movies of his stories, they make movies based on or inspired by his work. I prefer this.
Some of my favorite Phillip K Dick novels:
A Scanner Darkly
A Maze of Death
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich
Eye in the Sky
Confessions of a Crap Artist
Ones I was not so impressed by:
Radio Free Albermuth
Flow My Tears the Policeman Said.
His Short stories are mostly great and have been an inspiration to me in my own (aldeged) work.
Not as such.Essentially, the book was a cautionary tale about making robots that emulate all the 'finer details' of being human (such as movements, appearance, and interpersonal behaviour), but are only putting on the appearance of doing so. Robots that act human, but have no emotions, no remorse, and no feelings. The replicants were the villains of the story, and I think the story ambiguously foreshadowed a conspiracy on their part to gradually take everything over (kind of like the plot of the matrix series).
I read it as a kind of metaphor for humanities obsession with the superficial turning dangerous and a kind of spiritual realisation fable like that othe guy who did Spirited Away, that kind of thin, only without cute kids and friendly animals.
I am refereing to the guy and the artificial toad in the end.
PHILLIP K DICK LIVES!!!!!!!!
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Re: What are you reading right now?
If you enjoyed this and like reading comics, I would highly suggest "De cape et de crocs" translated into english as "About fangs and cloaks". The language, like in Alexandre Dumas' books, is a strong part of the pleasure of reading it, so I don't know if the ton of puns and alexandrines are translated in a way that the english version is as enjoyable as the french version.Jetryl wrote:Currently reading "The Three Musketeers" by Alexandre Dumas. Good stuff, can't believe I didn't read it earlier. Wicked illustrations, too.
I'm reading "The Parrot's Theorem" by Denis Guedj at the moment, which is a mix of several genre, between thriller and adventure, punctuated with nice anecdotes on mathematical demonstrations or history of mathematic. It's quite easy to read thanks to the smooth rythm forced by the alternance between the actual story and anecdotes tingling your curiosity.
I also got into the "V for Vendetta" serie lately. I did not see the movie, but I loved the comic. At 1st glance the graphic was looking a bit old to me, but once I got through the first pages, the faded dark colors really added to the atmosphere, and the "american-ish" style of the portraits created some nice off-set with the colors, which was well paralleled by the off-sets inside the story. Well, one thing I enjoyed among lots of other things in that comic.
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