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Actions speak louder than words, though. I'm sure that if you found what you think is a legitimate weakness in Drakes (yes, even through using math :P), if you were able to exploit this in MP to beat skilled players then you could probably convince a change. It can't just be anyone, it needs to be ...

You're assuming there is going to be a counter-attack. Drake strength in attacking means you should aim for attacking a weak spot and kill as many as possible. Then you retreat before they're able to finish you off. Quite simple, really. Drakes can really win when the scarce Drake units outnumber t...

You brought it up twice, but I guess it could have been miscommunication. I brought up survival maps when I said that I DIDN'T count them (and other non-canon modes of play) when looking at how many players were playing Drakes online. =) You can't use join date as a justification for your ignorance...

Ehm? I haven't mentioned Drakes in survivals anywhere, I don't know why you are bringing that up... I haven't discovered survivals up until several days ago and never ever played a Drake in one. We're all talking about the default era on normal maps here... I'm also not claiming to be an expert but ...

I'm all in favor of using the proper terms for things, but you're simply wrong in insisting that the word argument cannot be applied to what you are doing here. (I can't help but think this is probably because english isn't your first language - if it is, I really can't understand how you can not k...

http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20401 ?

You might fix the forums while you're at it. :-D

I guess it's just a question of high load since they weren't written by you. =)

Incidentally - are you saying that drakes are underpowered, or not? I honestly can't tell. At some points you seem to say that people don't play drakes because they're worse than other factions (you said something along the lines of "a drake player fighting against an equally skilled player of...

And as I said, competitive multiplayer. Ehm - I wanted to EXCLUDE these special cases, not include them. You keep misunderstanding me. ;-) Maybe you have replays to show the inherent total weakness of the Drake faction against other factions? I shall collect them. If I find any Drake players, that ...

OK - let's assume that this is true - how do you explain the low popularity of the Drakes then? Please, don't use the "they are just harder to play" argument because if anything is absurd than this argument is it. =) They have the most HP? Yep, the have the lowest EV and virtually the wors...

What do you mean by certain scenarios? I thought that balance was based on competitive multiplayer, not campaigns. I mean special maps like survival etc. - in multiplayer of course. The balance of drakes is very good as it is. Especially when they don't need changes, it means that they're very much...

Why would the line branched off of the glider be the Drake's slowest unit? The Drakes already have a pretty good defender - the clasher. Drake Gliders are gifted in flight, why would they become flightless? The Clasher line is still more versatile and focussed on attack. It's true that making Knigh...

Yeah, yeah -I'm not strictly speaking about the Armageddon Drake but about Drakes in general. One additional branch would be cool. =) By the way - Elves and Humans still have their lvl4 Sylphs and Grand Mages in default, correct? Lack of consistency? =) As for the low-level argument - one reason mor...

Hah - that's what 2 years can do to your being up-to-date with all the info. =)

Good to know that, however - maybe he'll sneak some Drake Knights or Regal Drakes into the set so I can make up some stats. :-P

Yay! This topic is one month old, true, but I see that it virtually picked up the discussion I was having two years (!) ago. ;-) It seems some issues have never been addressed. ;-) Although I might give up convincing anybody to include the Armageddon Drakes in the mainline (the last time I was activ...